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for 9/11. i was coming in to washington, d.c. on 9/11. i saw the smoke pouring out of the pentagon. i have been to new york city. i have seen the 9/11 memorial. we won't forget those victims of terrorism. we can't forget the fact that al jazeera was the mouthpiece of osama bin laden and has been working hand in glove with terrorist groups ever since. >> and cliff, let me just ask you this. a lot of things about this obviously that troubles me. but one of them is the whole glenn beck business. a year ago, glenn offered to purchase this failing network, whatever it is, current tv, $250 million. that ain't nothing. gore wouldn't give him the time of day. a year later, gore sells it. okay he got 500 million bucks but he didn't know that when glenn beck first offered in. why is al gore going with anti-american, anti-christian, anti-jewish, anti-israeli, anti-everything operation instead of glenn beck? why? glenn beck is a good american. what is motivating gore? >> you have to try to get him on the show, but this is the equivalent during world war ii of turning over american broadcast facil
in the pentagon? >> well, a quick answer is i don't know. i think when you look at that d.o.d.colossus, 2.4 million men and women in the department of defense. it's a giant operation. on the other hand, larry, it's 4.7% of gnp. that's the lowest percentage of national treasure in any of our so-called country's wars. so i tell folks, you run an operation in iraq that was running $12 billion a month. afghanistan was $10 billion a month. we burneded up a lot of resources fight twog wars over the last decade. >> all right so just on that thought get some views from the panelists. we're running those wars down. will they stay down, general mccaffrey? i know some saving is already built in. but down the road in terms of support personnel, in terms of investment in various weaponry and approaches and so forth, maybe that's the place for the savings right there on top of the savings in europe. >> oh, i think there's no question that as we turn off this war in afghanistan i think we're going to largely leave. i'd be astonished if we have any significant footprint there much beyond 2014. so that's
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